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	<title>Comments on: Charter Freedoms and Government Duties around Street Preaching: An (Overly?) Expansive View</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Bates</title>
		<link>http://ablawg.ca/2009/12/29/charter-freedoms-and-government-duties-around-street-preaching-an-overly-expansive-view/#comment-83987</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As counsel for Mr. Pawlowski and in light of the pending appeal by the City, I must be cautious with my comments here.  However, I do wish to point out that an analysis of the reasons for judgment without a full appreciation of the evidence that was before Judge Fradsham is of limited validity.

For example, the Province called no evidence at all to support its impugned provisions under a section 1 analysis, and the City called only one witness whose reliability was found by Judge Fradsham to be seriously compromised.  If the governments were hoping for deference from the court, they might have sought to establish their claim to it.

Also, it is important to recognize that the earlier QB reasons are in support of an interim injunction that did not in any way address the merits of any Charter arguments.  While there is an apparent disconnect in the findings of fact, the QB Justice did not hear 8 days of evidence which included choice bits like a City Bylaw officer testifying that the Street Church created essentially an impassible obstacle course in front of City Hall only to then agree on cross-examination that HIS OWN PHOTOGRAPHS show a space of at least the width of 5 normal city sidewalks through which pedestrians could travel unobstructed.

A Calgary Police Service officer would later testify that the activities of the Street Church were causing a situation of "imminent danger" such that a child could be run over in the crosswalk at any moment and therefore he stood by watching for close to an hour taking over 80 photographs, served a stunting ticket and left the scene with the activities continuing in exactly the same manner as when he first arrived.

Another bylaw officer testified to crowds numbering in the multiple hundreds at a Street Church event and when confronted with video evidence showing numbers closer to 30-50 he suffered a near collapse episode on the stand requiring the court to adjourn the proceedings for the rest of the day.

Virtually every prosecution witness confirmed that they did not attend Street Church events in response to any noise complaint, rather, that they were told to go by supervisors or that they intentionally went to locations at times that they knew they would find the Street Church.

Add to that the evidence tendered of two applications to the City Parks Department for Permits that were submitted by Street Church members including Mr. Pawlowski which City officials refused to even take across the counter because of who was submitting them.  Not surprisingly, the City's witness confirmed that it was completely contrary to policy and inappropriate that a citizen's Permit application would be refused without being read and without being reviewed by the actual persons with authority to grant or deny Permits.

I could continue, but I think my point is made.  While I do not suggest that Professor Koshan's article does not raise some interesting points of law (ones which no doubt will be argued at length on the Summary Conviction Appeal) I am happy to be moving up in the courts with the trial record that exists in this case.

Michael Bates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As counsel for Mr. Pawlowski and in light of the pending appeal by the City, I must be cautious with my comments here.  However, I do wish to point out that an analysis of the reasons for judgment without a full appreciation of the evidence that was before Judge Fradsham is of limited validity.</p>
<p>For example, the Province called no evidence at all to support its impugned provisions under a section 1 analysis, and the City called only one witness whose reliability was found by Judge Fradsham to be seriously compromised.  If the governments were hoping for deference from the court, they might have sought to establish their claim to it.</p>
<p>Also, it is important to recognize that the earlier QB reasons are in support of an interim injunction that did not in any way address the merits of any Charter arguments.  While there is an apparent disconnect in the findings of fact, the QB Justice did not hear 8 days of evidence which included choice bits like a City Bylaw officer testifying that the Street Church created essentially an impassible obstacle course in front of City Hall only to then agree on cross-examination that HIS OWN PHOTOGRAPHS show a space of at least the width of 5 normal city sidewalks through which pedestrians could travel unobstructed.</p>
<p>A Calgary Police Service officer would later testify that the activities of the Street Church were causing a situation of &#8220;imminent danger&#8221; such that a child could be run over in the crosswalk at any moment and therefore he stood by watching for close to an hour taking over 80 photographs, served a stunting ticket and left the scene with the activities continuing in exactly the same manner as when he first arrived.</p>
<p>Another bylaw officer testified to crowds numbering in the multiple hundreds at a Street Church event and when confronted with video evidence showing numbers closer to 30-50 he suffered a near collapse episode on the stand requiring the court to adjourn the proceedings for the rest of the day.</p>
<p>Virtually every prosecution witness confirmed that they did not attend Street Church events in response to any noise complaint, rather, that they were told to go by supervisors or that they intentionally went to locations at times that they knew they would find the Street Church.</p>
<p>Add to that the evidence tendered of two applications to the City Parks Department for Permits that were submitted by Street Church members including Mr. Pawlowski which City officials refused to even take across the counter because of who was submitting them.  Not surprisingly, the City&#8217;s witness confirmed that it was completely contrary to policy and inappropriate that a citizen&#8217;s Permit application would be refused without being read and without being reviewed by the actual persons with authority to grant or deny Permits.</p>
<p>I could continue, but I think my point is made.  While I do not suggest that Professor Koshan&#8217;s article does not raise some interesting points of law (ones which no doubt will be argued at length on the Summary Conviction Appeal) I am happy to be moving up in the courts with the trial record that exists in this case.</p>
<p>Michael Bates</p>
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		<title>By: Jonnette Watson Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://ablawg.ca/2009/12/29/charter-freedoms-and-government-duties-around-street-preaching-an-overly-expansive-view/#comment-81234</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonnette Watson Hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newspapers today carried a story about Kings Glory Fellowship, headed by Artur Pawlowski, losing its charitable status, in part because the CRA alleged "the group spent more than 10% of its time on 'nonpartisan political activities and therefore strayed into activities' outside its stated purpose." Apparently the CRA letter notifying the Fellowship of the change in status said ""We note ... the members of the Board of Directors espouse strong negative views about sensitive and controversial issues, which may also be viewed as political, such as abortion, homosexuality, divorce, etc." I hope you are going to write a post on this. It appears that no religious views are allowed in so-called "public space."  If such views are aired in public then they are secularized and characterized as "political." It's very interesting how the CRA defines "political", which is the "forbidden" activity.  Of course, lots of other religious leaders seem to be able to comment on current controversies without running into charitable status problems, so the CRA action has the air of scapegoating about it as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newspapers today carried a story about Kings Glory Fellowship, headed by Artur Pawlowski, losing its charitable status, in part because the CRA alleged &#8220;the group spent more than 10% of its time on &#8216;nonpartisan political activities and therefore strayed into activities&#8217; outside its stated purpose.&#8221; Apparently the CRA letter notifying the Fellowship of the change in status said &#8220;&#8221;We note &#8230; the members of the Board of Directors espouse strong negative views about sensitive and controversial issues, which may also be viewed as political, such as abortion, homosexuality, divorce, etc.&#8221; I hope you are going to write a post on this. It appears that no religious views are allowed in so-called &#8220;public space.&#8221;  If such views are aired in public then they are secularized and characterized as &#8220;political.&#8221; It&#8217;s very interesting how the CRA defines &#8220;political&#8221;, which is the &#8220;forbidden&#8221; activity.  Of course, lots of other religious leaders seem to be able to comment on current controversies without running into charitable status problems, so the CRA action has the air of scapegoating about it as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Koshan</title>
		<link>http://ablawg.ca/2009/12/29/charter-freedoms-and-government-duties-around-street-preaching-an-overly-expansive-view/#comment-80114</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Koshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been advised by counsel for the City of Calgary that they will be filing an appeal in this case. Stay tuned for further developments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been advised by counsel for the City of Calgary that they will be filing an appeal in this case. Stay tuned for further developments.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://ablawg.ca/2009/12/29/charter-freedoms-and-government-duties-around-street-preaching-an-overly-expansive-view/#comment-79725</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how this was argued by counsel.  I agree with you Jennifer that rules of statutory interpretation could by and large decide this matter in favour of Pawlowski, but i'm curious how much advocacy from counsel was dedicated to statutory interpretation relative to the Charter.  Interesting to speculate whether and/or to what extent Charter arguments have diminished the application of rules of statutory interpretation to decide cases like this one.

Nice reference to ejusdem generis.  I'd say that genus in the definition of Material seems to have a waste element to it - which means the bylaw wouldn't capture the items here.  One caveat however the principle of ejusdem generis also holds that if the specified list in the section exhausts the genus (ie. says everything there is to say about waste) then the general phrase takes its literal meaning - which could in this case bolster the argument for vagueness .... 

Then again, all of the applicable provisions here seem capable of absurd results with a literal reading.

Shaun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how this was argued by counsel.  I agree with you Jennifer that rules of statutory interpretation could by and large decide this matter in favour of Pawlowski, but i&#8217;m curious how much advocacy from counsel was dedicated to statutory interpretation relative to the Charter.  Interesting to speculate whether and/or to what extent Charter arguments have diminished the application of rules of statutory interpretation to decide cases like this one.</p>
<p>Nice reference to ejusdem generis.  I&#8217;d say that genus in the definition of Material seems to have a waste element to it - which means the bylaw wouldn&#8217;t capture the items here.  One caveat however the principle of ejusdem generis also holds that if the specified list in the section exhausts the genus (ie. says everything there is to say about waste) then the general phrase takes its literal meaning - which could in this case bolster the argument for vagueness &#8230;. </p>
<p>Then again, all of the applicable provisions here seem capable of absurd results with a literal reading.</p>
<p>Shaun</p>
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